repost---XLVII RONIN------forty plus seven --'The 47 Ronin+
by 3D Divine Deadbeat Dad---Alleged

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# 1. 2/27/10 1:12 AM by albert 1
I have some dim memories of watching some of Akiro Kurosawa's movies(with English subtitles) when I was visiting some of the major world cities.

Did he direct one of the 47 Ronin story?

I wonder how many of those stories besides "Seven Samurai" were adapted as American films.

Editor's Note: I just stumbled across this story on the web when I googled Ronin the recent movie. In understanding the motive of the homeless samurai, of honest honor, there is something intangible there that kind of hit home to me. My sword is of words but it is rusty and never was too sharp. I have only what is left of my life and I will not do anything too stupid to shame me or my family. Not eloquent words but humble, honest, and honorable. Like the old school phrase or question, "Are your intentions honorable?"

Thanks for the comment; as always Albert you make me think.

Thanx John



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# 2. 2/27/10 10:41 AM by Hawkeye - East Rochester
thumbsup.gif For Albert, no Akira Kurosawa did the “Seven Samurai” but not the larger number. Hiroshi Inagaki directed the 1962 epic, and Kenji Mizoguchi directed a 1941 version, probably intended to stir up nationalistic pride and loyalty with the war already in progress and more to come. Both were historically accurate accounts of the famous Ako Vendetta that happened in 1702. (Gotta love IMDB)

For 3D, the movie you referenced, “Ronin” contains one of my favorite movie exchanges of all time, between Robert De Naro and Michael Lonsdale.

“The Forty-Seven Ronin. Do you know it?”--Michael Lonsdale as Jean-Pierre

Robert De Naro as Sam just shakes his head.

“Forty-seven samurai, whose master was betrayed and killed by another lord. They became ronin - masterless samurai - disgraced by another man's treachery. For three years they plotted, pretending to be thieves, mercenaries, even madmen - that I didn't have time to do - and then one night they struck, slipping into the castle of their lord's betrayer and killing him.” --Michael Lonsdale “Nice. I like that. My kind of job.” --Robert De Naro

“There's something more. All forty-seven of them committed seppuku - ritual suicide - in the courtyard of the castle.” --Michael Lonsdale

“Well, that I don't like so much.” -- Robert De Naro

Good post 3D. Some of us knew of this event well but for many, it’s new and fascinating territory.

Editor's Note: Thanx for the grins. I had forgotten that line about. "Well, That I don't like so much.""

I like a lot of Robert DeNiro's movies. He has a very selective eclectic way of choosing roles.



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# 3. 2/27/10 10:50 AM by albert 1
Have you ever seen either "The Magnificent Seven" or "Seven Samurii"?

I have never tried to read a Ronin story in English. I have only seen Kurosawa's movies.

Mifuni died not to long ago.

There is one swordfighting scene I have seen analyzed in martial arts books for its precision that allowed one person in a center to fend off multiple attackers.

When the Bruce Lee and The Green Hornet plus the Kung Fu series on TV and chop suey Movies became popular in the i980s I was in Heaven.

I was saddnend to hear of David Carradine's death last year under very sad circumstances.

That Carradine family is the progeny of the older stage family. John Carradine was a great actor in his time and later ours.

I havent followed Kieth Carradine's career.

Editor's Note: Martial Arts is a mental state of defense, and honor. Bruce Lee and David Carradine, though different, brought nobility to what few Americans were aware of.

The use of ones opponent's strength and anger to defeat himself. (a moral lesson there.)




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