by 3D Divine Deadbeat Dad---Alleged

# 1. 2/3/10 7:52 AM by BF
My brother went to the same med. school as Patch Adams, roughly at the same time. I wonder if they knew each other?

I cannot imagine a doctor further from Patch Adams' personality than my brother. He's an excellent doctor, only different.

Editor's Note: That is some unique serendipity isn't it? Thanx John

# 2. 4/9/15 8:15 PM by BF
And as for mental (un)health itself, I think we each have some semblance of it.

At the very least it is called "adolescence," and sometimes it takes oh, until a body is 23 or 25 or so to survive it.

Editor's Note: The raging hormones of adolescent puberty and beyond, create a fragile mindset for many years in most individuals who have experienced trauma and grief...

If I had only known, or realized, then, what I know today, maybe I would have made some different choices...

Butt then again, fate and destiny are funny like that.

# 3. 4/9/15 8:42 PM by Albert 1
Sad, with the access Robin Williams must have had to expert help he couldn't make it worthwhile to keep on living.

Editor's Note: I still have some serious doubts about the official story surrounding Mr. Williams death...

Sort of like, they never talk about suicide by proxy, concerning veterans suicides...

The ulterior motive has me still wondering, "WHAT IF?"...???...

The recommended drug for Parkinson's although not named in any article I've seen, is still a "mind altering" anti-psychotic, specifically for Parkinson's... What if he was misdiagnosed? What if there was a black box warning on the drug? What if he was part of an experimental study of a new drug, or combination, (cocktail?), of drugs???

His character portrayals over the years included "Awakenings" anf "Patch Adams" which were not kind to the pharmaceutical INDUSTRY of complex psycho affective miltary denial, projection, and transference...

And let us not forget that the CIA was the leader in all drug testing and results from the fifties, sixties, and seventies...

LSD was one of those hidden variables that would z"trip" anyone, anytime, anywhere...into a space time delirium of delusional hallucinations and nightmares...

Well I googled back and found this. I guess it too several months to "lea" out.... And I must have missed it, being such an intermittent reader as I am...

Contrary to News Headlines, Robin Williams Was on Drugs at the Time of His Death—Antidepressant Drugs Print Save to bookmarks RobinWilliamsAntidepressant

“The antidepressant found in Williams' toxicology test, Mirtazapine (Remeron), has 10 drug regulatory agency warnings citing suicidal ideation.”

By Kelly Patricia O’Meara November 10, 2014

If news headlines were to be believed about the autopsy findings of beloved actor/comedian Robin Williams, who tragically committed suicide nearly two months ago, no drugs were found in his system at the time of his death, as evidenced by headlines from USA Today, NBC News, the BBC and others proclaiming “no alcohol or drugs” were found. These headlines couldn’t be more wrong.

The medical examiner’s report cites an antidepressant drug was in Williams’ system at the time of his death. The particular antidepressant, Mirtazapine, (also known as Remeron) carries 10 international drug regulatory warnings on causing suicidal ideation.

According to the autopsy results, not only was Williams under the influence of antidepressant drugs, but the powerful antipsychotic Seroquel was also found at the scene and appears to have been recently taken by Williams. While toxicology tests apparently were negative for the antipsychotic Seroquel, the fact remains that a bottle of Seroquel prescribed to Williams on August 4th, just seven days prior to Williams’ suicide, was missing 8 pills. The Seroquel instructions advise to take one pill per day as needed. Side effects associated with Seroquel include psychosis, paranoid reactions, delusions, depersonalization and suicide attempt.

MCDAWAK EC015The question that has to be asked is why the press continues to promote the idea that no drugs were found in Williams’ system? At what point did mind-altering psychiatric drugs, which have side effects rivaling those of heroin or crack cocaine, stop being called drugs? robin-williams-quoteAnd for those in the press who did “mention” the fact that Williams was found to have antidepressants in his system, the acknowledgement seems to promote the fact that “therapeutic concentrations” of prescription psychiatric drugs “improved his condition and kept him active until his death.”

This is a highly misleading take on the events leading to Williams tragic suicide, especially in light of the fact that not only was Williams receiving mental health “treatment,” he was under the supervision of a psychiatrist, was not abusing illegal drugs and had not “fallen off the wagon.”

The facts regarding antidepressant drugs are these:

Food and Drug Administration’s Medwatch Adverse Drug Reports include 470,000 adverse reactions for psychiatric drugs between 2004-2012. The FDA admits only 1% of side effects are ever reported to them, so the actual number of reported side effects is assuredly much higher.

Mirtazapine (also known as Remeron) carries the Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) “Black box” warning for suicidality.

There are ten warnings of suicide associated with Mirtazapine alone and suicide is among the top 2 side effects reported to the FDA on this particular antidepressant

The FDA’s MedWatch drug adverse event reporting system recorded 411 attempted and completed suicides associated with the antidepressant Mirtazapine alone (and the FDA estimates only 1% of side effects are ever reported to them)

90,000 emergency room visits are attributed to psychiatric drugs each year in the U.S.

23,755 suicides are attributed to psychiatric drugs each year in the U.S. alone.

In addition to suicidal ideation, documented side effects of antidepressants by international drug regulatory agencies include hallucinations, delusions, worsening depression, depersonalization, mania, psychosis, self-harm.

Give the above data, one can only wonder why Williams’ psychiatric drug use has effectively been dismissed by reporting organizations. A careful review of Williams’ psychiatric “non-drug” use paints a very different tragic story.

What was found in Williams’ system were prescription psychiatric drugs with side effects that not only rival illegal street drugs, but also carry the FDA’s “Black box” warnings—the federal agency’s most serious warnings—about increased thoughts of suicide.

The fact is that two of the drugs Williams had been prescribed list suicidal thoughts as possible side effects. The Seroquel he was prescribed (and appears to have taken in the week prior to his suicide), and the antidepressant that was still in his system at the time of his suicide. Moreover, considering the FDA’s Medwatch drug adverse event reporting system recorded 411 attempted and completed suicides associated with the antidepressant Mirtazapine alone (and the FDA estimates only 1% of side effects are ever reported to them), it becomes even more bizarre that the world’s press ignore even the possibility that these drugs could be involved in Williams’ suicide.

The much-loved comedian’s death is a great loss, but the tragedy is further compounded by the mainstream press glossing over the serious and well-known association between suicide and the psychiatric drugs Williams was taking. If only the sentiments from one of Williams’ finest roles in Awakenings had been taken literally in his personal life: “The human spirit is more powerful than any drug and that is what needs to be nourished: with work, play, friendship, family. These are the things that matter.”

# 4. 4/10/15 6:15 AM by little john - mount morris
thumbsup.gif “The human spirit is more powerful than any drug and that is what needs to be nourished: with work, play, friendship, family. These are the things that matter.”

from "Awakenings"

Editor's Note: n.t.

# 5. 4/10/15 11:53 AM by BF
He may not have been prescribed antidepressants which caused his death; he may have been described the wrong ones FOR HIM.

Antidepressants, more often than not, do much more good than harm. The doctor and the patient (and/or the patient's rep) need to be on the same page on the same team for this to work.

Editor's Note: There are more mis diagnoses and mis medication in the real world than anyone really knows. It is not medical malpractice but the fate of misdirected good intentions that can turn a beautiful mind, inside out and upside down...

Imagine a very proper colonoscopy ordered for a 51 year old veteran with moderate TBI...

They found nothing there is the pun??? His assets had already become the property of the cold hearted state, and the ice queen of his family who was an employee of that state...


# 6. 4/10/15 9:17 PM by BF
I understand where you're coming from, John. All I am saying is that I may know as many people for whom the meds worked as you know for whom they didn't work.

Editor's Note: Thank you for the kind comment.

We are all victims of our own experiences. Thus we each have a different perspective of how prejudicial feelings are molded, and that includes the modern day miracle drugs...

I still remember that old cliche' though.

"One man's cure, is another man's poison."

# 7. 4/11/15 2:39 PM by BF
Indeed, we are all victims of our own experiences, on many levels, in many ways.

Editor's Note: The key to recovery is never giving up, and the desire to improve our physical and mental well being, in our own unique way....

# 8. 4/8/16 6:21 PM

Editor's Note: Reposted as a reminder to all who've "been there"...


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