Where Albert sort of agrees with Zjabs UPDATED
by Albert 1

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# 1. 12/15/09 1:06 PM by Jim - Rochester
The professional "christians' are gonna be all over you Albert with quotes from the founding fathers (most in fact were Deists)

Before they do post I suggest they check the following website, for quotes that never were

http://www.religioustolerance.org/badquotes.htm

Editor's Note: I expected it not only form the professional Christians but from anyone who only like people that agree with them.

Deism is a word I would not expect to be in the lexicon of most of these critics.

I would challenge them to read of Thomas Jefferson's attitude towards any spiritual philosophy. I think some of these "Deists" might actually have been atheists.

Its a good thing that blasphemy is not a crime in NY State.



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# 2. 12/15/09 1:06 PM by Jim - Rochester
The professional "christians' are gonna be all over you Albert with quotes from the founding fathers (most in fact were Deists)

Before they do post I suggest they check the following website, for quotes that never were

http://www.religioustolerance.org/badquotes.htm



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# 3. 12/15/09 2:35 PM by BF
Well, you sure twisted a lot of knickers with this one, Albert.

Linking your comment about an avowed athiest as president with "the current neo-communists in charge" is laughable.

Reading comprehension isn't their strong suit.

Editor's Note: Their comprehension is based on stored kneepjerk responses. I think these were based on when they saw the word "atheist"



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# 4. 12/15/09 3:35 PM by Jay - OR
Why do people run from the concept of agnosticism? To know, or not to know, seem the preferred alternatives. Deists vs Theists seems to me to be a strained and often blurry distinction as compared to an Atheist, who also believe. He is convinced that there is no deity.

Personally, since I believe in freedom to believe or not, an Atheist can believe as he wishes. But can't you see the historical play-out of those who believe there is no deity? That's the position against which you seem to rail. Since Atheists are capable--and seemingly MORE capable--of jumping off on that slippery slope, would it not be wise to (no, not disqualify them for the presidency, but to personally) subject them to a much more vigorous degree of scrutiny?

It's a matter of trust. And, Zjabs and others screaming to the contrary, the value system is essential. And, Jim to the contrary, forms of that quote are found among nearly all, if not all, of the founders. Why we can profit from giving special respect to the founders is another subject, for another comment.

Editor's Note: One thing that seemed to have been missing is that I would indeed subject an avowed atheist to a LOT of scrutiny. Since logically it would be difficult for me to not envision a Prime Cause I would wonder where else such a believer could not connect the dots.

I can never countenance "thinking in a box" as logical unless the limits of logic stop at the walls of the box.




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