Come on, you can say it (now with transcript)

Come on, you can say it... I told you so didin't I?

So the white loose canoon itching to shoot a black kid because of racism who fell innocent victim to an unprovoked attack has changed a bit, hasn't it?

I won't pontificate. But I will say that I was right wasn't I, when I pointed out that too many things didn't add up? We haven't seen the last of the craziness that the media ran with, I mean with a million hoodie march planned for NYC to the black panthers competing for camera time with Al Sharpton and his gang of exortionists, I'd say that we almost lynched a man with a lot of wrong facts. Who knows, he may still get the death penalty. The judicial process has not dealth with this because I'm guessing that the police believe his story checks out because they saw him and noticed the injury to his face.

Anyhow all that being said I was less than 20 miles from ground zero in Sanford, as I was visiting my grand daughter at my mother's house in Oviedo. We didn't see any craziness there, but we did have a couple of seemingly related run ins in Disney. I went to the park with my spectacular (don't ask me what she sees in me) Panamanian woman, my very black Barbudian (not Bermuda, it really is Barbuda; an island in the leeward islands with pink sandy beaches) daughter in law and biracial grand daughter. I'm sure people couldn't figure us out with so many different people, but I did run into a neo-nazi in one of the lines. This guy had tats all over his body, his arms and neck were plastered with SSs swastikas, iron crosses and other racial hatred garbage. When he crossed in line I had my grand daughter on my shoulders and we were having a great time joking around and laughing when I saw her mom so I pointed her out having to look around this guy and he all of the sudden gave me the stink eye trying to stare me down. I had my baseball cap on backwards and it was bothering me like that anyhow (I had/have pretty good sun burn), so I flipped it around and point my SF ring at him too. He perked up, grabbed his son and started climbing over ropes to get out. They're all a bunch of gutless women alone, so I wasn't surprised that a stupid baseball cap could scare him off. Anyhow that was one odd event.

The others were all with my daughter in law. Other than that jerk I just told you about, the rest were all black people. She'd say something nice about their children, offer them seats in crowded places, try to chit chat in line and was in treated very rudely by most. It happened so much that I couldn't miss it if I wanted to, but it was pretty much the opposite than you would think if you listened to left wing jaw in the media. White folks were very nice to us, and my daughter in law and grand daughter in particular were treated great by everyone except the neo nazi and other back families.

So perhaps along with the black panthers there were neo-nazis in the area, and blacks were on edge that lived in the area. I'm guessing, but I live here and yesterday was not normal at Disney. Shopping locally and all it was completely normal. We go to local yocal joints ourselves, so we would not be crossing paths with any of the people in town just to stir it up in all likelihood.

Normally that part of Florida is very lazy and quiet, so these types of things are a shock to a local community I would suppose, but we were only there for a few days and didn’t get out  but to go to Walgreens, gas station, etc. It is a very southern US town so it is segregated like any other, the South is just like that. Folks tend to stick to “their” own neighborhoods, and only mix in public places like school, shopping, church, etc. The trouble in this case was imported…

Just like I figured.

 Here's the transcript...


SEAN HANNITY, HOST: New developments in the tragic case of Trayvon Martin, the teenager who was shot and killed in Florida by a neighborhood watch member by the name of George Zimmerman. Now, Zimmerman has not been charged by police and is now in hiding, fearing for his life.



Now, according to the Orlando Sentinel, Zimmerman told police that Trayvon climbed on top of him and slammed his head into the sidewalk several times, leaving him bloodied and battered and with a broken nose, and his lawyer says that only one side of the story is being reported.


CRAIG SOONER, GEORGE ZIMMERMAN'S ATTORNEY: I think when the evidence comes out, it will show that George Zimmerman was acting in self defense in this case, and when the rest of the evidence comes out, the fact that -- the one fact we do know and that I can disclose at this point is that George Zimmerman suffered a broken nose, injuries to the back of his head and signs of a scuffle, being grass stained on the back of his shirt.


HANNITY: And the man who does not want his identity revealed says that when he came upon the fight, Zimmerman was on the bottom and he was the one yelling for help.


UNIDENTIFIED MAN: The guy on the bottom who I believe had a red sweater on was yelling to me help, help, and I told him to stop and I was calling 911. I got upstairs and looked down, the person that was on top beating up the other guy was the one laying in the grass, and I believe he was dead at that point.


HANNITY: But other people have said that they thought it was Trayvon yelling for help. In the end, the case may come down to the interpretation of Florida's stand your ground self defense law which many, including the law's authors, have said does not apply because Zimmerman had been following Trayvon prior to the fight and Trayvon had been running away.

Now, listen carefully to part of Zimmerman's call to police as he followed Trayvon in his truck. When Trayvon starts to run away, you can hear Zimmerman get out of the truck to follow him. You can listen for the door opening, the car beeping to indicate the door had opened, and shutting as Zimmerman follows on foot.


OPERATOR: Sanford Police Department.

GEORGE ZIMMERMAN, TRAYVON MARTIN'S SHOOTER: Hey, we've had some break-ins in my neighborhood and there's a real suspicious guy. This guy looks like he's up to no good or he's on drug or something. He's got something in his hands. I don't know what his deal is. (EXPLETIVE) He's running.

OPERATOR: He's running. Which way is he running?

ZIMMERMAN: Down towards the other entrance of the neighborhood. (EXPLETIVE)

OPERATOR: Are you following him?


OPERATOR: OK. We don't need you to do that.


OPERATOR: All right. Sir, what is your name?

ZIMMERMAN: George. He ran.


HANNITY: All right. Joining me now with reaction, Joe Oliver who is a friend of George Zimmerman's, and Shannon Butler who has been following the story for our affiliate, Fox 35 in Orlando. Guys, welcome to the program. And thanks for being here.

Shannon, let me start with you. We were originally told that it was originally reported that, in fact, there were no eye witnesses to the case. You have interviewed the one person that we're now told was an eyewitness from the very beginning, is that -- is that true?

SHANNON BUTLER, FOX 35 NEWS REPORTER: Yes. There have been several witnesses who have come out since the initial report. The witness I think you're referring to is John, and John is the one that said that he actually saw the scuffle between the two other people that we interviewed said they heard the screams, they knew there was some kind of confrontation. But this guy told us that he actually saw what he said was Trayvon Martin on top of George Zimmerman beating him, and that's when he called 911. He said, Zimmerman was actually saying to him please help me, please help me. He said then he went upstairs while he was calling 911, by then he was too late, that gunshot had already gone off.

HANNITY: What can you tell us, and he was saying that in fact, it was George Zimmerman on the bottom and Zimmerman was being beaten up, does that not corroborate in spite all of the media coverage and all those that have been speaking out politically about this, does not that contradict the narrative that's been heard in the media up to this point?

BUTLER: Well, we hadn't heard George Zimmerman side really of the story except for a few of those witnesses like John. But today, the Sanford police did make it clear that what George Zimmerman told them was that he was actually getting back into his SUV when he said Trayvon Martin came around the left-hand side of him and he says that Trayvon Martin said, do you have a problem? And he said no, and then Trayvon said something like well, you do now. Then George Zimmerman told the cops that he got punched in the nose. He hit the ground, and that's when Trayvon Martin jumped on top of him and slammed his head into the sidewalk and that's when he began to yell for help. I mean, that's what Sanford police tell us that George Zimmerman told them.

HANNITY: And again, just to be clear about this, because this is a really important point, as far as we know at this point, this would be the only eyewitness that we know in this case?

BUTLER: That we know of that has actually come forward on this case, not the only eyewitness. The only eyewitness that says, he saw Trayvon Martin on top of George Zimmerman.

HANNITY: Right. But the other --

BUTLER: We've interviewed other witnesses who have said that screaming on the tape was not George Zimmerman, it was Trayvon Martin. That's what all the other witnesses have said.

HANNITY: All right. Joe, I know you're a friend and I know you've been on some other TV shows. The implication and the allegation by many that this was a case of racial profiling, that some have suggested this is racially motivated, this is somebody you know, somebody that's your friend. A, have you spoken with him, and what has he told you?

JOE OLIVER, FRIEND OF GEORGE ZIMMERMAN: Yes, I have spoken to him. I spoke with George earlier today, and I actually got the details of what happened after that confrontation that was reported in the paper today. That's what he told me is the reason why he's not in jail right now. I wish I could tell you what he told me and what the investigation has turned up. That's information that's not coming out until the grand jury convenes if there is a grand jury.

The frustration for George and for everyone who's involved with this is that there hasn't been enough information out there to get a clear picture of what happened. And the biggest missing picture is what happened from the time George said, OK after being told that he didn't have to follow Trayvon, to the time that someone saw Trayvon on top of George and heard the gun go off.

HANNITY: Is there an answer to that, Joe? Because the one thing that struck me as I listened to that tape and they said no, no, no, we don't need you to do that. I'm just trying to put myself in that position. Assuming what he's saying, that this area had been hit particularly hard with crime recently. For whatever reason he saw somebody he didn't recognize in the neighborhood, he called 911. They told them to do that. Is there an answer to that question, why he followed when they said don't?

OLIVER: Well, no, there's not an answer to that question because we don't know for sure that he actually did follow him.

HANNITY: Well, you can actually hear on the tape, though.

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